like that moment in the rupert murdoch testimony in the british parliament yesterday. we played this on the show. there's no more perfect representation from the republican position than this clip from the murdoch testimony. watch. >> when were you informed about the payments made to gordon taylor and max clifford? >> nope. >> no? when were -- was that a yes or no -- it was not a yes or no. no. the answer is no. doesn't matter what the question is. they don't want to do it. so the only way out of this, well, there may be two ways out of this. one, if the president can circumvent congress, the president could theoretically break the law that says it's congress that has to raise the debt ceiling by instead raising it himself by using powers out of the constitution which says our debt has to be honored. that's one of the things in politics that may be technically feasible, not that he wouldn't do it to save the country. presidents have done things more extreme, but the idea he would be made to do it or consider it, it is almost impossible to imagine. putting that aside, i